AWOB Meeting 2011-11-15

MPDL,GAVO

General Information

 * Date: Tue, Nov 15, 2011; 13.30 h - 16 h
 * Place: MPA/Garching, room 005
 * Partcipants
 * Alexis Finoguenov
 * Hermann Brunner
 * Natasa Bulatovic
 * Angela Buongiorno
 * Matthias Egger
 * René Fassbender
 * Frank Haberl
 * Gerard Lemson
 * Rupert Kiefl
 * Vlad Makarenko
 * Andrea Merloni
 * Richard Sturm
 * Wolfgang Voges
 * Andreas Vogler

Scope of the Meeting
General Remarks. Presentation of a first AWOB Demonstrator to the associated scientists. Discussion

Agenda

 * Welcome: Wolfgang (5 min)
 * Introduction: Andreas (10 min.)
 * What are our goals?
 * Where are we now?
 * Built a platform on top of the Liferay environment.
 * Built user requirements based on the use cases provided by the associated scientists.
 * The Demonstrator already supports many requirements.
 * How do we proceed from here?
 * Personalized guided walk through the demonstrator with Jaiwon for each participating scientist and gather feedback.
 * Continue to gather use cases from the scientists and implement.
 * Upgrade the platform to a upcoming Liferay version.
 * Brief comments on work packages and milestones.
 * Presentation of the demonstrator: Gerard (45 min.)
 * Gerard will show you all the benefits we already have
 * Creating a project in AWOB, loading up resources, using the Wiki
 * Discussion
 * Open ended discussion for the interested audience

Minutes

 * All scientists agreed to be part of a AWOB mailing list
 * RF: How many people?
 * AV: 1FTE(JK), 2.5FTE(MPDL: 2 developers, 0.5-0.75 coordinator)
 * Rene: What about Data storage?
 * Per file, per project?
 * Per file for the demonstsrtrator only about 3MB
 * Depends on how popular the project become.
 * RF: an image of order of GB should be supported with regard to typical image file size in optical astronomy.
 * GL: Do not expect it to be a tool to upload the whole millennium sim.
 * NB: Need some policy and agreement.
 * GL: awob can give an access to data stored in somewhere else. E.g., webdav
 * RF: Some dataset is stored in a centralized place instead of having many copies.
 * WV: We Need to provide cost model how to sustain it before the end of the project.
 * RF: This will be useful.
 * AM: Not far from using it. But AWOB needs a critical mass.
 * JK: Make a policy for MPE/A students to create AWOB account.
 * RF: Is it free service? Limited to Germany?
 * GL: Might change from initial plan. Max Planck should provide free service.
 * NB: Max Planck should provide free service.
 * NB: In addition, it is open source.
 * HB: If there are many different instances can they talk to each other?
 * GL: We hope to make this possible somehow. But first, AWON as single instance has to be built.
 * AB: Any control who can sign up?
 * NB: Manually controlled but mostly free.
 * GL: Could filter. Many scenarios.
 * NB: for now unknown users can create a project/ account in awob. but can change it.
 * RF: Publish button? Publish as a web page?
 * GL: Need to define. Initial idea to publish is to publish to VO. But make it easy to publish your work and data.
 * JK: Scientists want to publish their data selectively at the end of their projects.
 * JK: Does it look difficult to use?
 * No looks simpler than facebook!!
 * FK: Let's create a project for the associated scientists.
 * ME: This release is not for real usage!