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Actually why not linking this table to Publication Types VES ( http://colab.mpdl.mpg.de/mediawiki/ESciDoc_PublicationTypes_VES )?
 
We are doing double work - and it always has to be specified on two places, whenever there is a change :)  --[[User:Natasab|Natasa]] 12:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
= Diskussionsseite zur genre spezifischen Eingabemaske =
Bitte schreiben Sie Ihr jeweiliges Feedback unter die Überschrift mit dem jeweiligen Genre und '''signieren Sie Ihren Beitrag'''. Hierzu geben sie am Ende Ihres Beitrags einfach vier Tilden ein: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Nach dem Speichern der Seite ("Save page") erscheint an der Stelle der vier Tilden dann automatisch Ihr Nutzername sowie ein Datums- und Zeitstempel: --[[User:Tanja|Tanja]] 08:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Bitte geben Sie auch an ob Ihr Feedback die Easy oder die Full Submission betrifft.
 
General feedback by Karin:
In our institute we need abstract and keyword-> thus we want this in almost all genre types. The user should be able to add information like dates whenever
possible, so we added date a lot of time within the masks.
The drop down menu for dates should follow the order of the dates in the full submission masked (now the drop-down menu is slightly random).
 
Whenever one can fill in a 'Bibliotheks Signatur' -> this is called call number or shelf number and not signature(!)!
 
'''GUI Feedback general:'''
 
If a genre - specific form is offered, it might not cover all fields/meta data provided by the user (maybe he even does not have a clear understanding of the genre). For some cases we need a clear/simple handling of data which is not included in a genre specific form:
 
*Change genre during create item (User defines the genre, fills the form and changes the genre)
*Change genre via edit item
*Ingestion
*New revision
*Use as template
*Fetch MD
*??
 
One way might be to warn and discard all data, not relevant for the current genre. Making it somehow accessible can get complicated on the GUI. --[[User:Rkiefl|Rupert]] 11:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 
Different labels could be problematic. Here we have for example various labels for 'Source Volume':
 
* Journal Article: 'Volume'
* Book Chapter:    'Volume of Book'
* Teaching:        'Number of Teachware'
 
There is only one metadata 'Source Volume' - right? These labels must be applied in 'View Item Version' as well. Otherwise the user enters 'Number of Teachware' in 'Create Item' and gets 'Source Volume' in 'View Item Version'.
 
It would be better to put a small table into the context sensitive help or apply a tool tip (TITLE Tag) on mouse over: 'Also used as 'Number of Teachware' or ...'.
 
If the decision for a genre is a fundamental decision which leads to various appearance of the content section it would perhaps be better to include that into the menu structure.
 
--[[User:Rkiefl|Rupert]] 08:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Feedback zu Journal Article ==
 
label: title of Journal => should be: title of article
 
include also in easy submission these fields: subject, start page, and end page
 
include also in full submission: date created, date modified, review type
(comments by Karin)
 
Rupert: This would be one date field with an option to define the date type (see Easy Submission Book) --[[User:Rkiefl|Rupert]] 08:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 
== Feedback zum Book ==
easy submission:
include place of publication, subject, abstract
 
full submission:
include total number of pages
 
source genre/source title: should be default value: series, other types not applicable
 
(comment by Karin)
 
== Feedback zum Book Chapter ==
easy submission:
 
include also: file, file locator, keyword, abstract, creator(s) of book (the editor of a book is much earlier known and a far more
reliable resource than the title of the book), start page of chapter, end page of chapter. We think the
 
full submission:
add total number of pages
 
label source genre/source title: these should be default values
 
(comments by Karin)
 
== Feedback zum Proceedings (Proceedingsband) ==
easy submission:
add keyword, abstract
 
full submission:
add date created, date modified, total number of pages
 
(''comments by Karin)''
 
== Feedback zum Proceedings Paper (Conference Paper) ==
easy submission:
add file, file upload, keyword, abstract
 
full submission:
add date created, date modified, invited
 
other:
source should be a drop-down menu or as now a list of different sources BUT we also need
something for physical description, since a lot of proceedings appear as CD-Rom, DVD, or
only online. Depending on the physical description subsequent fields should be available.
(''comments by Karin)''
 
== Feedback zum Talk ==
easy submission:
add file, file locator, keyword, abstract
 
== Feedback zum  Conference Report ==
add subject, abstract
(comments by Karin)
 
== Feedback zum  Poster ==
 
easy submission:
add: subject, abstract, end date of event,
 
full submission:
add date submitted, date accepted, date publ. online, date publ. in print,
source genre, source title, source volume, source issue, source start page and end page,
sequence number and identifier, end date of event, invited
also add a possibility to enter a physical description
''(comments by Karin)''
 
== Feedback zu Teaching (Lecture/Courseware) ==
 
easy submisssion:
add subject, abstract, event title, event place
 
full submission:
add event title, event place
 
also this should really be another metadata scheme.
 
''comments by Karin''
 
== Feedback zu Thesis (Hochschulschriften) ==
 
general remark:
the way Phd thesis or other thesis are approved and publ. differ from country to country.
 
A date of approval could be matched to date accepted rather than date created.
 
easy submission:
add date publ. in print, degree type, subject, keyword
 
full submission:
add: all dates (user should be able to enter dates), source genre and source title (since PHd thesis
eg. in our institute appear within an institute's series), alternative title, source publisher, source
place, source volume
(''comments by Karin)''
 
== Feedback zum  Working Paper ==
 
== Feedback zum  Report ==
esay submission:
add file, file locator, subject, and keyword
 
full submission
add date created, date modified
''(comments by Karin)''
 
== Feedback zum  Journal ==
 
== Feedback zum Issue ==
 
easy submission:
genre, title of issue, creator(s), keyword, abstract, source genre, source title,
date within a pull down menu
(we as moderators should be able to identify the issue and thus need this info)
 
full submisssion
add creators, all dates (created...-> published)
total number of pages, language of publication, keyword, abstract, alternative title,
start page, end page, invited
(comments by Karin)
 
== Feedback zur  Series ==
full submission:
add date created label it as: starting date of series, identifier
(comments by Karin)
 
== Feedback zu Other ==
 
'''GUI Feedback:'''
 
* Is this the old 'Edit Item' then with all fields available? If one has already chosen a genre we should not allow to 'show all fields available'.
--[[User:Rkiefl|Rupert]] 08:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:01, 1 April 2010

Actually why not linking this table to Publication Types VES ( http://colab.mpdl.mpg.de/mediawiki/ESciDoc_PublicationTypes_VES )? We are doing double work - and it always has to be specified on two places, whenever there is a change :) --Natasa 12:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)