Difference between revisions of "Talk:PubMan Func Spec Export/APA"

Revision as of 11:59, 25 May 2009

Changes in APA for R5[edit]

Issues on the discussion page will be implemented and moved to the main page as soon as they are tested and working.

Overall changes[edit]

all genres: Add a comma before the ampersand in editors. For example, by book chapter, following citation is exported: Levinson, S. C. (2003). Contextualizing 'contextualization cues'. In S. Eerdmans, C. Prevignano & P. Thibault (Eds.), Language and interaction: Discussions with John J. Gumperz (pp. 31-39). Amsterdam: John Benjamins. (there should be an additional comma before "& P. Thibault")

--Makarenko 14:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC): Done.

genres series and journal: There should be no date in the citation, as it is not logical for these genres. At the moment, it is not possible to give a date for journal or series, and so the citations look ok. But it the case of pre-existing items (and possibly also imported items) that do have a date in their MD, this date is exported in the citation. Please specify how these "problematic" items need to be handled.

--Makarenko 14:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC): The dates are excluded for the genres. Please, update specs accordingly.

include Edition into the citation for Book Chapter and Book

--Makarenko 14:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC): Please, specify the layout element for the the geres.

--Despoina 09:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC) Example for book with edition in the citation:

Mitchell, T. R., & Larson, J. R., Jr. (1987). People in organizations: An introduction to organizational behavior (3rd ed.). New York: McGraw-Hill.

(The corresponding rule would be: Author, A. A. (Year of publication). Title: Alternative Title (Edition [ed.]). Place of Publication: Name of Publisher. )

--Makarenko 12:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC): Done.

I would say the rule should be (The corresponding rule would be: Author, A. A. (Year of publication). Title: Alternative Title (Edition). Place of Publication: Name of Publisher. )--Karin 14:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

--Makarenko 11:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC): Done, no postfix [ed.] in play.

Example for Book Chapter with edition in the citation (please note that in book chapters, the edition can be found in Source Details):

Maccoby, E. E., & Martin, J. (1983). Socialization in the context of the family: Parent - child interaction. In P. H. Mussen (Ed.), Handbook of child psychology: Vol. 4. Socialization, personality, and social development (4th ed., pp. 1-101). New York: Wiley.

(The corresponding rule would be: Author, A. A., & Author, B. B. (Year of publication). Title of book chapter. In A. Editor & B. Editor (Eds.), Title of book: Alternative Title (Edition [ed.], Start Page-End Page). Source.Place of Publication: Source.Name of Publisher.)

PLEASE NOTE: Edition should always appear in ordinal numerals (e.g. "1st", "2nd", "3rd", "4th" etc.), so using just the value from the field "edition" will probably be wrong. There is further specification required.

To be discussed with Karin Kastens. Problem: should be 1st, 2nd etc. question is, if this should be part of the citation style itself or if it should be dependent on the user input. --Nicole 10:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

--Makarenko 12:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC): Done. No processing st-nd-th for the first release., wait for the specification

I would say: dependent on input. I even wouldn't have the [ed.] as default. I would take what people put in, eg: 5th ed., 5. Aufl., 2nd rev. ed., ... I guess that German books require German texts, like: Kastens, K. (2007).Test zweite Auflage eines Buches (2. Aufl.). Nijmegen: MPI.--Karin 14:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Outcome of TelCo. Please only write the content of that field. --Nicole 11:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

submitted publications (IMPORTANT)

citation should like this: Author, A. A. (submitted). Title of publication. Now, there is nothing in brackets and the journal title is mentioned which should not be given. --Karin 19:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

--Makarenko 14:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC): Done.

If we change the implementation for submitted items, the APA is not a standard APA anymore. --Nicole 13:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

in preparation publications

citation should like this: Author, A. A. (in preparation). Title of publication. --Karin 18:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

--Makarenko 14:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC): Done.

Talk at event[edit]

Author, A. A., & Author, B. (Year of Event). Publication.Title. Event.Title. Event.Place, Start Date of Event - End Date of Event.

e.g. Smith, J. H., & Thomas, R. (1996). Relaxation therapy for elderly insomniacs. Symposium in insomnia. Uppsala, Sweden, 2007-03-29 - 2007-03-31.

--Makarenko 14:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC): Done. Good!!--Karin 14:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Poster[edit]

recommendation for poster: Author (year, month of meeting). Title. Poster presented at Title of Event, Place of Event. example, edoc id:http://edoc.mpg.de/398451 should read:

Van Alphen, P.M., & Van Berkum, J.J.A. (2006, March). About embarking dogs and gracious mice: An ERP study on the integration of embedded words. Poster presented at the Annual CUNY conference on human sentence processing, San Diego, CA.--Karin 13:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Implemented? Please check code. --Nicole 09:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

--Makarenko 14:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC): Implemented with workflow:

if event/start-date is defined, then year_of_start_date, month_of_start-date
if event/end-date is defined and event/start-date is not defined, then year_of_end-date, month_of_end_date
if event/end-date is not defined and event/start-date is not defined, then common_date

Hi Vlad, I am very embarrassed to say, that the nice citation with the month doesn 't work on our website. There is a sorting problem. So I propose that the posters should be: Van Alphen, P.M., & Van Berkum, J.J.A. (2006). About embarking dogs and gracious mice: An ERP study on the integration of embedded words. Poster presented at the Annual CUNY conference on human sentence processing, San Diego, CA.--Karin 15:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

--Makarenko 09:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC): Hi, Karin, I've switched off the Month name handling :(, but processing of the date stays how it was specified above: event/start-date -> event/end-date -> common_date.

Outcome of TelCo it is okay to remove the month and leave the rest of the citation as it is. --Nicole 11:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Lecture/ Courseware (Teaching)[edit]

Take same citation as for Talk at Event.

Outcome of telco with Karin. --Nicole 13:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

(proposal --Karin 12:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC))

Author, A. (Year). Title. EventTitle. University, Place of University, Start date - End date.

If start-end date of event missing in MD, the citation ends with ",.". Please remove the comma.

--Makarenko 15:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC). Implemented exactly how it is defined here, not same as Talk at Event.

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 :::* --[[User:Makarenko|Makarenko]] 12:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC): Done.
 :I would say the rule should be (The corresponding rule would be: Author, A. A. (Year of publication). Title: Alternative Title (Edition). Place of Publication: Name of Publisher. )--[[User:Karin|Karin]] 14:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
+:*--[[User:Makarenko|Makarenko]] 11:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC): Done, no postfix [ed.] in play.
 :::Example for Book Chapter with edition in the citation (please note that in book chapters, the edition can be found in Source Details):